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On October 6, 2016, Hannah Stoddard joined Defending Utah (Ben McClintock, Enoch Moore) and Cherilyn Eager on The Liberty Lineup Radio Show (KTALK 630) to discuss the recent article, “‘The dominant [Church history] narrative is not true . . .’ LDS scholars encourage new history, new policy, new Church.”

Read this first! Some have been confused regarding the position of LDS Answers and the Joseph Smith Foundation regarding the progressive historians quoted and their call for a “reconstructed narrative”. The Joseph Smith Foundation promotes the traditional teachings of ancient and Latter-day prophets. The purpose of this post is to raise awareness of where many LDS intellectuals would like to move the Church. Again, the Joseph Smith Foundation will be providing materials to counter the statements in this article. This is not a discussion of anyone “anti-Mormon”.  The scholars quoted are also active members of the Church, although we disagree with their positions.  

Read the article referenced in the interview: “The dominant [Church history] narrative is not true . . .” LDS scholars encourage new history, new policy, new Church

 

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46 Comments on "LDS scholars encourage new history, new policy, new Church (Defending Utah – KTALK 630 Interview)"

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JMN
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The church needs to give answers to all of these statements by previous lds scholars, teachers and historians that say, Joseph was influenced by a preacher named benjamin whom was a preacher in josephs day that had his followers sit arround him in tents to listen to his last sermon, did this really happen? what about the ethan smith book etc , what about the testimony of the plates, was it in vision or physical, thier is so much that the church needs to explain to keep thinking people from having serious doubts about the foundation of the church. I… Read more »
Mary Wilder
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Why are some of the intellectuals in the Church trying to change our history, and even some of the words of our prophets? Doctrine and Covenants 1:38 says, “What I the Lord have spoken, I have spoken, and I excuse not myself; and though the heavens and the earth pass away, my word shall not pass away, but shall all be fulfilled, whether by mine own voice or by the voice of my servants, it is the same.” In that same section in verse 19 it says, “The weak things of the world shall come forth and break down the… Read more »
Jack of Hearts
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“Why are some of the intellectuals in the Church trying to change our history, and even some of the words of our prophets?” Probably because it suits their agenda. Why does Hannah Stoddard repeatedly twist the words of LDS scholars in this radio show? Again, probably because it suits her agenda.

Seriously though, what scholars are you referring to? John Dehlin? Mike Quinn? Dan Vogel? I think the simplest answer is they don’t believe. The same cannot be said of men like Richard Bushman though.

Aaron
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I’ve read a lot of the scholar’s words… I can’t find any twisting let alone repeatedly. Richard Bushman is pretty honest of his view in his book, “But the consequences of Joseph’s charismatic authority can easily be misconstrued. He was not the luminous central figure he is sometimes made out to be. Attention focused on his gift, not his personality. Although he served the vital function of revealing God’s word, he was thought of as an instrument. The early missionaries told audiences that revelation had been restored; they rarely name the revelator. When Joseph summarized Church principles for the public… Read more »
Jack of Hearts
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“I’ve read a lot of the scholar’s words… I can’t find any twisting let alone repeatedly.” How about when she implies that Bushman no longer believes? The context of his statements make it clear that he is referring believing *in the way he did before.* But that doesn’t have nearly the shock value it does without the context. Her treatment of snippets from Rough Stone Rolling is suspect to the same bias. “As [Bushman] has said, ‘I find inspiration in prophetic sorrow and defeat as well as in triumph.’ That’s his viewpoint and very well if it works for him.”… Read more »
Liz
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I get the feeling LDSanswers doesn’t know who Richard Bushman is. He was a Stake President, is a Stake Patriarch, a Temple Sealer, has a PhD (in history) from Harvard, and is on faculty at Columbia University. Those are some pretty high bars to meddle with. Also, “Rough Stone Rolling” is sold at LDS-owned bookstore Deseret Book, so it has cleared the highest governing bodies of the church for sales and distribution. By all accounts, the brethren in SLC seem to regard Richard Bushman quite highly. May I ask what credentials (religious, academic, or otherwise) LDSanswers has to presume to… Read more »
Hugh
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Liz, in regard to your “high bars to meddle with”, I am fairly sure LDS Answers knows who Richard Bushman is. You may be interested in why it is not a good idea to use Church position to justify position. It was Isaac C. Haight and William Dame two stake presidents that were responsible for the Mountain Meadows Massacre. John C. Bennett and William Law, former members of the Presidency of the Church both had a major part leading to the death of the Prophet Joseph Smith the and persecution of the Saints. Judas Iscariot was one of the Lord’s… Read more »
LBN
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This podcast comes across as really unknowlageable and dishonest. You deride people like Bushman for “rewriting the narrative” and rewriting history. But, THE CHURCH ITSELF is “rewriting” its history, according to your definition. Look at the gospel topic essays. Publishing and teaching those exact concepts got people excommunicated just 20 years ago. There was virtually NO references to Joseph’s Polygamy or Fanny Alger or the angel with a flaming sword in official curriculum. You call it “rewriting”, Bushman and the authors of the gospel topic essays would call it getting to the truth of the issue.
Hugh
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You may want to be more careful with your history. Joseph Smith’s Polygamy is not a new subject that the Church is now coming out with. Essentials in Church History, written and republished through the years by President Joseph Fielding Smith and a key history book used in the Church discusses Polygamy multiple times. The Life of Joseph F. Smith by Joseph Fielding Smith is largely devoted to Polygamy. Blood Atonement and the Origin of Plural Marriage was written for the obvious intent as indicated in the title. There are many more books that have taught a far more accurate… Read more »
noel
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Some of what Brodie wrote ended up being correct. Documents relating to the 1826 trial were found. The Egyptian papyri were found in 1967 and presented a challenge to the historicity of the Book of Abraham. Polygamy has been discussed more, the large number of women sealed to him.

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